topic Re: 50W829B media player problems in Other TVs

50W829B media player problems

xerces8 — Sun, 15 Feb 2015 12:38:19 GMT

Hi!

I only played 4 movies with my TV and already experienced 2 problems.

In one MKV movie the dialogs (speech) disappeared after a while. I could hear sorroud sounds and when people speaked in the back, but not in the front. Restarting the playback fixed the problem... for a while, thne it came back.

The movie plays without problems on a PC (with VLC player).

The other MP4 stopped in the middle with a message like "Can not playback..." (will report exact message when I see it again). If I restart the movie and use fast-forward to skip the point where it stopped, then it plays normally... until the next point where it stops.

This file also play with no problem on PC.

I upgraded the TV firmware last week.

Please advise.

David

PS: Firmware version is PKG2.263EUA

Re: 50W829B media player problems

Anonymous — Sun, 15 Feb 2015 18:45:25 GMT

Hi there

Are you streaming the movies wirelessly? If so, see what happens when you connect a network cable instead (and stream via a wired).

Also, do the files fully conform to the codec specifications : HERE

To check to see which codecs are in use for the files, install mediainfo : HERE

Cheers

Re: 50W829B media player problems

xerces8 — Tue, 17 Feb 2015 01:21:06 GMT

They were all on a USB stick that was plugged into the TV.
I'll check the codecs later.

Re: 50W829B media player problems

xerces8 — Tue, 17 Feb 2015 20:47:55 GMT

The first file is MKV, with:

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames                : 3 frames
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration                                 : 2h 12mn
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 4 352 Kbps
Maximum bit rate                         : 25.0 Mbps
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 816 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 2.35:1
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 fps
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.116
Stream size                              : 3.93 GiB (90%)
Writing library                          : x264 core 129 r2245 bc13772
Encoding settings                        : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=3 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=4352 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=25000 / vbv_bufsize=25000 / nal_hrd=vbr / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : No

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension                           : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness              : Big
Codec ID                                 : A_AC3
Duration                                 : 2h 12mn
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 384 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 363 MiB (8%)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : No

Text
ID                                       : 3
Format                                   : UTF-8
Codec ID                                 : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info                            : UTF-8 Plain Text
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No

It seems conformant, but I don't know the details.

Second file is:

General
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media
Codec ID                                 : isom
File size                                : 2.91 GiB
Duration                                 : 2h 58mn
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 2 335 Kbps
Encoded date                             : UTC 2013-05-20 10:08:53
Tagged date                              : UTC 2013-05-20 10:08:53

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames                : 4 frames
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 2h 58mn
Bit rate                                 : 1 823 Kbps
Maximum bit rate                         : 9 889 Kbps
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 816 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 2.35:1
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 fps
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.049
Stream size                              : 2.28 GiB (78%)
Writing library                          : x264 core 132 r2310 76a5c3a
Encoding settings                        : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=2 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=4 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=1823 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=25000 / vbv_bufsize=31250 / nal_hrd=none / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Encoded date                             : UTC 2013-05-20 08:07:30
Tagged date                              : UTC 2013-05-20 10:09:42

Audio #1
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile                           : LC
Codec ID                                 : 40
Duration                                 : 2h 58mn
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 384 Kbps
Maximum bit rate                         : 450 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 488 MiB (16%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2013-05-20 02:00:48
Tagged date                              : UTC 2013-05-20 10:09:42

Audio #2
ID                                       : 3
Format                                   : AAC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile                           : LC
Codec ID                                 : 40
Duration                                 : 2h 58mn
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 124 Kbps
Maximum bit rate                         : 142 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 159 MiB (5%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2013-05-20 02:18:06
Tagged date                              : UTC 2013-05-20 10:09:42

Re: 50W829B media player problems

rooobb — Wed, 18 Feb 2015 09:40:22 GMT

I've seen other people reporting that 384Kbps in the audio encoding it's non handled by the tv, may you try converting it at a lower rate?

Re: 50W829B media player problems

xerces8 — Sun, 22 Feb 2015 16:00:12 GMT

It is not my job to test the TV, but Sony engineers. After all I pay them for that. But that might change.

I see half of threads here are about this model not playing video or even crashing.

I will return it and take my money back.

Re: 50W829B media player problems

Anonymous — Mon, 23 Feb 2015 18:25:29 GMT

Hi there

No one suggested that you "test the TV". It was merely suggested that you try lowering the audio bitrate of the file itself. But doesnt matter, you've returned your TV.

You are right about one thing, there is an un-resolved issue with the TVs media player - which has been reported.

Cheers

Re: 50W829B media player problems

xerces8 — Mon, 23 Feb 2015 18:43:57 GMT

Trying new things on the TV until it works, what is it then if not "testing"?

Also lowering the bitrate is not like turning a *****. I must find appropriate software, learn to use it etc...

I paid for the TV to use it, not to debug it.

(I haven't returned yet, as: it was sunday yesterday, and: I have more important things to do right now, like earning the mentioned money)

PS: k-n-o-b is censored? Dial, tuner, linear input...

Re: 50W829B media player problems

Anonymous — Mon, 23 Feb 2015 19:11:37 GMT

@xerces8 wrote:

Trying new things on the TV until it works, what is it then if not "testing"?

Increasing probability of success ?

I understand where your coming from though. Unfortunately there is no definative solution at this stage.

And yes, sometimes the language filter is unpredicable. I belive its defined via a keyword dictionary. But as we know, the same word can be used in many ways.