topic Re: Sonic Stage 3.0 Problems in PCs & Accessories

Sonic Stage 3.0 Problems

RubenBCN — Fri, 11 Mar 2005 20:39:20 GMT

It says I have to initializate my VP.
I go to initializations menu, I do it but it doesn't work.
What can I do?

Re: Sonic Stage 3.0 Problems

MadarbWoT — Sat, 12 Mar 2005 15:23:18 GMT

there are many initializations in the menu.are you sure you are selecting the right one...i think you're supposed to format the whole drive not history stuff etc.
i havent got the 3.0 version yet and it doesnt sound good that you have to format your vp[that's why i havent upgraded yet]so i could be wrong...

maybe if you try and delete the tracks manually or through the sstage,and then try again?

Re: Sonic Stage 3.0 Problems

RubenBCN — Sat, 12 Mar 2005 15:56:49 GMT

Yes, I thought the same as you.
There is an Initialization in the menu, but it doesn't seem to work.
Then, there is an initialization in the Control menu in SS 3.0.
But this seems to format the VP... and I have like 13gb and almost 5.000 songs transfered... no way I'm gonna format it.
Now I'm trying to go back to 2.1 or 2.3 but no success...
Damn Sony...

Re: Sonic Stage 3.0 Problems

MadarbWoT — Sun, 13 Mar 2005 09:43:07 GMT

is there a big difference between "initializing" and "formating"?
i thought it's the same thing...

from what i saw from another user,he upgraded into v3.0 and all his files were lost completely,music and all.

i suppose you cant prevent this from happening if you want to upgrade you sstage...

but still im not sure as i havent done it myself

Re: Sonic Stage 3.0 Problems

Ze_PilOt — Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:28:28 GMT

that's very lame. I'm not going to reupload all my songs on every update. And, I cant backup all the music on my hd (not enough freespace), and reconverting all the cd take to much time. I wont do it. So if so at sony reads this, make something for that silly upgrade process !

Re: Sonic Stage 3.0 Problems

Snalko — Wed, 20 May 2015 14:37:41 GMT

is there a big difference between "initializing" and "formating"?
i thought it's the same thing...

from what i saw from another user,he upgraded into v3.0 and all his files were lost completely,music and all.

i suppose you cant prevent this from happening if you want to upgrade you sstage...

but still im not sure as i havent done it myself

I have downloadded SS3.0, man do I regret it, my pocket isn't regognized anymore, I put SS2.3 again on my pc and deleted 3.0, the problem occures.

**** SONY! Now I have to format my Pocket with almost 7000 songs on it plus albumcovers.

Thinking of purchasing a Ipod 60Gb Photo, although I am very pleased with the sound of the Vaio Pocket, but DAMN Sony, you are gonna loose costumers by this behaviour!

Re: Sonic Stage 3.0 Problems

RubenBCN — Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:16:09 GMT

Snalko, you are totally right. It happened the same to me.
A shame!

By the way, not Norton, McAfee.

Re: Sonic Stage 3.0 Problems

samartin — Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:29:36 GMT

I lost 2,500+ songs the other day to take advantage of v3.0, not sure if it is worth it !!!

I lost all my data when it said everything but MUSIC would be lost, was extremely p!ssed and have to yet again rip all my CD's which takes a good while to do...

I agree the device is a wonderful piece of equipment but the software is a major let down and ruins what could have been easily an IPod Killer !!!

Re: Sonic Stage 3.0 Problems

RubenBCN — Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:39:00 GMT

You are right, Samartin.
in fact, in SS 3.0 I wanted to check the Playlist thing.
What's that?
It seems to be a simple group. I thought it would be something similar to *.m3u but no.
Also there is a Compilation option and a preview of the art inside the VP (but still you have to add it before, in SS).

Re: Sonic Stage 3.0 Problems

MadarbWoT — Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:45:27 GMT

so the 3.0 has problems in its use...
is it really that bad for you?
have you installed the firmware updates and all?
maybe thats why the device is not recognized...

Re: Sonic Stage 3.0 Problems

RubenBCN — Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:16:42 GMT

Yes, I tried everything that I could think about.
I had the last firmware but again I installed it.
in fact I backed up the VP content and then put it again after initializing but i couldn't play atrac files 8no permissions).
Previoulsy, I had gone back to version 2.3 and 2.1 after uninstalling 3.0 but I couldn't access to the VP no more.

As I've commented preiously, this means that if I ever change of computer o format the one that I've got now, I'll have also to format my VP.
That's ridiculous. And that's it. i've been happy with MD for a lot of years, I like the sound of the atrac files but that's it.

no more sony products. This problems mean that they don't care about users at all.

Re: Sonic Stage 3.0 Problems

RubenBCN — Mon, 14 Mar 2005 15:17:47 GMT

by the way. i'll suggest a seed file, like an ID file with a password or something (ala Lotus Notes), so they still have security, but something that avoids formatting / initializing.
there are so many solutions.

Re: Sonic Stage 3.0 Problems

@4967457401015621 — Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:24:03 GMT

there are better solutions, but the ipod doesn't have one - you still have to format that every time you change pc etc. if you want it to synchronise its library on connection. i tried to gt some photos from my friend's laptop with my ipod nce and it started erasing everything at a time when i didn't have reliable access to a firewire equipped pc... i was not impressed!

Re: Sonic Stage 3.0 Problems

Ze_PilOt — Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:53:06 GMT

I dont care about the protection of the files, but a UPGRADE process instead of a total reformat will be more than nice. Sony has already open the vaio to mp3, A real upgrade to 3.0 (and the support of the vaio transfert program) must be done !

(by the way, can you read the mp3 directly from the vaio now ? With 2.3, I only can read/transfert back the real atrac formats, not mp3)

Re: Sonic Stage 3.0 Problems

RubenBCN — Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:19:48 GMT

With 2.3 I couldn't tranfer back to the comnputer the atrac.
now the atrac can be transfered back OK, also if the atrac file doesn't exist in the computer.
Haven't tried the mp3 yet. I'll let you know.

Re: Sonic Stage 3.0 Problems

MadarbWoT — Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:38:55 GMT

please do let us now about the mp3 transfer it might be a reason enough to upgrade it...although it will take a lot of guts and patience...

thanks rbn

Re: Sonic Stage 3.0 Problems

Ze_PilOt — Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:30:25 GMT

Hurray, back to 2.3 and my Vaio is recognize ! I think that the trick is to unistall & delete all the openMG stuffs..

But I want the ability to play & transfert mp3 from vaio 😞

I WANT A WORKING 3.0 !!! 🙂

By the way, someone tried the 3.0 upgrade ? (not the 3.0 full install ?) Same initilization problem ?

Re: Sonic Stage 3.0 Problems

seb21__ — Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:36:42 GMT

I get the feeling SoniStage3.0 is a Beta Software.

Re: Sonic Stage 3.0 Problems

DiabloVaio — Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:42:23 GMT

Hurray, back to 2.3 and my Vaio is recognize ! I think that the trick is to unistall & delete all the openMG stuffs..

But I want the ability to play & transfert mp3 from vaio 😞

I WANT A WORKING 3.0  !!! 🙂

By the way, someone tried the 3.0 upgrade ? (not the 3.0 full install ?) Same initilization problem ?

1) you can transfer MP3 files with Vaio pocket music transfer program! go and update it and then transfer mp3s!

2) I want a real 3.0 !

3) I upgraded from 2.3 to 3.0 and it insisted on initilization again! thumbs up for SonicStage 3.0! I've never seen an upgrade as trouble making as this in a program! (or maybe I'd seen before, for example winamp 3.xx was terrible! but we have 5.xx now which is unlike Sonicstage, has some features!)

Re: Sonic Stage 3.0 Problems

Ze_PilOt — Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:57:46 GMT


1) you can transfer MP3 files with Vaio pocket music transfer program! go and update it and then transfer mp3s!

Yes but I want to transfert back from my vaio. Or listen on my pc but in the vaio (ie. at work, using my headphone on the computer instead of directly on the vaio)
I can transfert & play back atrac files but not mp3 😞