topic Re: new phone already encrypted in X Series

new phone already encrypted

mekaniker1 — Wed, 13 Jul 2016 15:19:26 GMT

I just got my new Xperia X from Deutsche Telekom. Everything works fine but settings > lock screen & security > encryption shows Encrypted.

Does that make sense?

Re: new phone already encrypted

MarlonUk1 — Wed, 13 Jul 2016 16:47:16 GMT

did you check if there options to remove it? or maybe it is not higlighted. I would suggest to return it and maybe have a new device replacement, make sure to check the device before you leave the store

Re: new phone already encrypted

Jake-SonyXperia — Thu, 14 Jul 2016 02:30:51 GMT

Hi mekaniker,

Welcome to the community,

Have you added a work email address on the handset?

You can check the Device administrators to see what application is able to set encryption.

Menu > Settings > Security > Device Admins

Re: new phone already encrypted

ykphuah — Thu, 14 Jul 2016 05:18:05 GMT

Yeah, mine comes encrypted as well. It is a good thing. Why you don't like it??

Re: new phone already encrypted

sgiesen78 — Thu, 14 Jul 2016 07:16:08 GMT

I can confirm that at least all Xperia X smartphones delivered by Deutsche Telekom are encrypted by default. Yep, it's a good thing. Consider encrypting your SD card as well !!!

Re: new phone already encrypted

mekaniker1 — Thu, 14 Jul 2016 13:54:32 GMT

and if i reset my phone can i get rid of the encryption?

wasn't the backup function dependent of encryption? meaning: when encrypted --> no backups possible?

Re: new phone already encrypted

_alexdon_ — Thu, 14 Jul 2016 14:21:59 GMT

@mekaniker XPC is able to backup encrypted memory if you set a password for the backup.

Re: new phone already encrypted

mekaniker1 — Thu, 14 Jul 2016 15:30:14 GMT

i guess that's the same thing like "my xperia" backup right?

Re: new phone already encrypted

mekaniker1 — Fri, 15 Jul 2016 11:51:49 GMT

So, if the phones from Deutsche Telekom are encrypted by default, does that mean that a reset would NOT remove the encryption??

Re: new phone already encrypted

sgiesen78 — Sun, 17 Jul 2016 08:01:20 GMT

Encryption is great. You still can do everything, I mean connecting your phone to your Mac or PC, creating backups etc etc. There is no restriction on anything.

When you got a "branded phone" from T-Mobile, yes, the encryption is on by default and it will be after reset etc.

If you want to get rid of the T-Mobile stuff (the jingles and the start screen animation 😉 then download and install FlashTool and flash a standard european ROM for your Xperia X. No problem, it's not a trick, it's a Sony 😉

Re: new phone already encrypted

Lord_viridis — Sun, 17 Jul 2016 16:33:14 GMT

Unbranded phones are also encrypted.
It is not just locked models.

Re: new phone already encrypted

mekaniker1 — Mon, 18 Jul 2016 13:46:22 GMT

obviously on branded phones the encryption is still there even after reseting. what about the unbranded ones?

are they also encrypted even after a reset?

Re: new phone already encrypted

_alexdon_ — Mon, 18 Jul 2016 14:13:54 GMT

@mekaniker @sgiesen78 @ykphuah @Viridis

This is the info we have:

All Xperia devices released with Android™ 6.0 (Marshmallow) and onward are encrypted by default since this was made mandatory by Google™.

Re: new phone already encrypted

sgiesen78 — Mon, 18 Jul 2016 14:17:08 GMT

ok, accepted. But why is this not valid for the Z5 series e.g. ? They are delivered with "Android 6.0 onwards", too. Recently shipped Z5 series phones with Android 6.0.1 at T-Mobile are not encrypted by default.

Re: new phone already encrypted

_alexdon_ — Mon, 18 Jul 2016 14:21:46 GMT

@sgiesen78 It is valid for phones launched after the MM software update was launched.

Re: new phone already encrypted

ykphuah — Mon, 18 Jul 2016 15:43:24 GMT

@sgiesen78 wrote:
ok, accepted. But why is this not valid for the Z5 series e.g. ? They are delivered with "Android 6.0 onwards", too. Recently shipped Z5 series phones with Android 6.0.1 at T-Mobile are not encrypted by default.

Encryption slows down the device, unless you have the updated hardware. I think Sony/Google did the blanket decision that everything ships with 6.0 onwards have it encrypted by default, regardless of whether the hardware is there or not.

Just encrypt! I was worried about read performance on my previous M5, and did a benchmark, not much difference between unencrypted and encrypted. I assume Z5 will not have any difference as well.

Re: new phone already encrypted

DiTzev — Wed, 07 Dec 2016 19:00:13 GMT

Hello,

I ave a question about encryption. The first days of the phones usage (Xperia X) when rebooting or powering on I would be asked for the password before loading the OS, this is no longer happeing......is this normal?

In settings says encrypted but its greyd out.