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when is the update comming?

Thu, 02 Sep 2010 15:57:44 GMT

come on man give us the 2.1 now stop testing our limits se ................why are u doing it to ur customers the service centers dont no anything bout it and u dont tell us anything ............................................................what do we have to do its been 7 months since the launch of x 10 but still no 2.1 u gota be ashamed bout it

Re: when is the update comming??????????????????????????????????????????????????

Thu, 02 Sep 2010 19:00:55 GMT

Apparently according to SE Spain, 38th week.

Re: when is the update comming??????????????????????????????????????????????????

suze — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 20:56:13 GMT

Jeff/Martha can you edit and take some of the ??? out of the title, its messed up the discussions board page as its shunted everything to the right behind the boarder and its driving me nuts cos you can't see who has posted on what and when.

Re: when is the update comming?

Fri, 03 Sep 2010 09:18:39 GMT

darkmax wrote:

Apparently according to SE Spain, 38th week.

This timescale apparently "confirmed" by a posting on Twitter by SE-UK.

I, for one, can't wait !!!! :smileygrin:

Re: when is the update comming??????????????????????????????????????????????????

Fri, 03 Sep 2010 14:51:45 GMT

I don't think they will do that.

Re: when is the update comming?

Fri, 03 Sep 2010 14:52:25 GMT

Please kep in mind this is a secondhand information. Take it with a grain of salt.

Re: when is the update comming?

Mon, 06 Sep 2010 10:02:24 GMT

darkmax wrote:

Please kep in mind this is a secondhand information. Take it with a grain of salt.

No ... it ... isn't. It's on the official SonyEricsson UK twitter feed. See for yourself : http://twitter.com/SonyEricssonUK/status/22180941832

Actually, strike that, first hand would be from the SE X10 development team - but they're too busy/important/dumb (*delete as appropriate). But I'll take that post (unless it's from some pink-slipped soon-to-be-ex employee - in which case surely there'd be a retraction) as hard data - at least until proven otherwise.

Two weeks and counting...?

Interesting reply on their page (http://twitter.com/SonyEricssonUK) "@mmk92 We can only currently confirm the release of Android 2.1. Any further information will be available once this is released.". So if you want to be really (actually "stupidly") optimistic, then maybe (and I've got my fingers, legs, arms, etc crossed at this point) we'll get a timescale for 2.2 issued once the 2.1 OTAU is available. Never mind socks, aftershave, DVD's, etc - that would be a Christmas present I'd love to unwrap! Oh, and note the text: "currently confirm the release of Android 2.1"

Re: when is the update comming?

Mon, 06 Sep 2010 10:14:47 GMT

Cool. So it is fairly confirmed, and yes I'll go start the death ray on the moon just in case they start eating their words again. Where should I take aim? Ericsson Sweden HQ or Sony Japan HQ?

Bluebobx, take my advice, go on and live your regular life. They may or may not announce 2.2. And even if they do so, they may not deliver on time. That makes it less than 20% chance of it happening before or on Christmas 2010.

Re: when is the update comming?

Mon, 06 Sep 2010 11:22:07 GMT

Yep, I'm doing that. Just thinking out loud that a 2.2 announcement after they've put the 2.1 update out there would have been good for all concerned. Like you, in the unlikely event that they do announce it, it's unlikely that we'll see it quickly. Personally, given the amount of MarketPlace app issues that 2.2 is causing, I'll be quite happy to wait until end Q1/2010 for 2.2 - although (again) if SE want to shock everyone and deliver before that, then I'll not complain too loudly. Give me the 2.1 update (which - in true Linux fashion - does appear to be very stable) in the next 2-3 weeks and I'll definitely be content.

There's still talk of a post-2.1 update which improves the Sony-specific stuff - like Timescape and Mediascape along with the camera capabilities - in Q4. Again, if that's delivered then I think we'll have a pretty acceptable device at the end of the year.

Like you, I'm frustrated that we've got this nice piece of hardware (excepting the non-multitouch-capable screen) that's being (badly?) let down by shortcomings in the software.

Speaking of crappy software - thanks for the earlier tip about Startup Auditor. Unfortunately it's not recognizing the Spotify app (the aforementioned "crappy software") so I can't stop it starting, but it does work quite well at zapping the Moxier suite, (and the paid version of ATK works nicely to keep memory tidy). I'll drop the SA developer a mail and see there's a way to zap that darned Spotify! What I wouldn't do for a command line and the ability to "rpm -e Spotify"...

PS, definitely like the death-ray-on-the-moon idea. Cue the Imperial March from Star Wars ....

Re: when is the update comming?

Mon, 06 Sep 2010 14:18:11 GMT

Looks like you are likely to be advised getting the paid version of Software Auditor to get stop Spotify from starting up.

Moxier Suite is a pain. All the bloatwares in the world are a pain in the A***.

I believe the upcoming 2.1 is supposed to improve on the camera as well. I just wish we can get Walkman app.... though that is very unlikely.

Here's to 2.1 and beyond.... Or else we'll just have to switch the death ray from stun to kill.

Re: when is the update comming?

Mon, 06 Sep 2010 14:33:57 GMT

With regards to the 2.2 update, I don't believe it will ever come officially to the x10 family. If it does fine but I am not going to waste any time expecting or hoping it does. A shame though as 2.2 really takes android up a notch in terms of performance and features. In any case, 3.0 devices will start appearing from q1 2011 onwards and by then this x10 will really start looking antiquated. With any luck someone from the dev community will crack the bootloader to allow flashing of custom 2.2 roms even if 3.0 would be impossible because of hardware limitations. Flash support, wifi tethering and installing apps to sd cards will keep me going fine until I am ready to get another device.

Re: when is the update comming?

Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:13:31 GMT

I will not advise putting too much hope into 2.2 either. Bluebobx agreed as well. Not officially anyway.

Re: when is the update comming?

Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:17:24 GMT

wel never know..

what if they surprise us.. at the end of the month were getting 2.2 update not eclair. haha!

Re: when is the update comming?

Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:33:31 GMT

From what I know of SE, nay.... that's almost never gonna happen. There was only once and that was only ONCE.

Re: when is the update comming?

Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:41:59 GMT

haha! stop it darkmax. it seems you know it all. are you part of sony ericsson? haha funny.:smileysilly:

wtf! are you a moderator? to say those things? hahaha

Re: when is the update comming?

Mon, 06 Sep 2010 16:14:33 GMT

No, no, no. I'm no employee of theirs. Apparently I'm not good enough. :smileygrin: And no, I'm no moderator. If I am, I would be a pretty poor one at that.

But I take your comment as a compliment.

Re: when is the update comming?

Tue, 07 Sep 2010 00:30:59 GMT

By the way, can I ask, does anyone know even roughly the hardware limit of the Xperia family regarding future Android updates? I've a Mini, and I wonder can it take 2.2 and beyond? Then, I suppose 2.1-2.2 can't be that bad? Just, limited RAM, and all that...

Re: when is the update comming?

Tue, 07 Sep 2010 03:34:15 GMT

Here's the specs for X10 Rachel

And here's for the X10 Mini, and X10 Mini Pro

Re: when is the update comming?

Tue, 07 Sep 2010 07:37:26 GMT

Last question first - yes your Mini (which my teenage daughter thinks is really cute) will be able to use 2.1 (Eclair) and there's no real objection to 2.2 (Froyo) - assuming that SE decide to release it (and let's be honest - if they don't then they should just stop trying to sell Android phones!). By the way, I came across an old Sony posting, apparently the Mini (or it could have been the Mini Pro) was codenamed "Shakira" - as in the Colombian pop-star. :smileygrin:

That was the good news, here's the bad ... it's widely thought that the shortage of internal RAM (384 v's 512MB) on the X10 family means that 3.0 (Gingerbread) or 3.1 (not sure of the numbering - but it's codename is "Honeycomb") versions of Android are never going to be available officially. The opinions I've seen are divided on the subject, with some saying that 3.0 will run in less than 512MB, but it'll be painfully slow (presumably because the OS then has to do a lot of memory management). The "officially" caveat was because I think it's remotely possible that an X10 hacker may be able to get the vanilla firmware onto it, but the problems with that are technical (Sony use an encrypted bootloader - don't ask me why - seems like a moronic decision to me), legal (there's some concern that breaking the encryption is illegal in the US) and logistical (there's a perception in the 'droid hacking community that the X10 is a minority device - and therefore not worth the effort)

I haven't seen any information on whether there's any updates between 2.2 and 3.0 - I'm guessing from the lack of a gap in the naming that either there isn't, or if there is then they're really just "service packs" just issued to fix bugs or security holes. Actually that's something that really worries me - if there are problems found then it's very unlikely that us Sony customers will be allowed to get access to them.

By the way, I claim no special knowledge or expertise - I'm merely someone who bought his X10 on it's looks (how shallow is that?!), who's kids like the looks of the X10Mini's and who's trying to get the best out of the hardware I've bought.

Re: when is the update comming?

Tue, 07 Sep 2010 10:59:24 GMT

I would completely agree with you - SE has lost the race again to HTC, Samsung and Motorola. It seems that the 2.2 would be the end of SE X10 and meaning time for us to shift to other OEMs. :smileyangry::smileyangry: